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Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:37 am
by Shed on tour
In intensive care after suffering a severe stroke.

Remember as a kid going to the lane and watching him on numerous occasions. They say now that goal scorers are worth millions I wonder what his value would have been in todays market.

Hopefully you will recover Jimmy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32580282

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 1:39 pm
by Steve and Jo
The way he passed the ball into back of the net

Pure and simple legend

Get well soon Jimmy

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:23 pm
by Bluemike
For me one of the true greats who didnt get the recognition he so richly deserved.


Get well soon.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 4:57 pm
by herforder
Very sad to learn this news - thoughts go to his family, together with best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Absolute legend, whose worth at his peak in today's mad market would be squillions!

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 5:25 pm
by arana peligrosa
Was fearing the worst when I saw the thread title but this is still very upsetting news. Greaves is my all-time favorite English player and you have to be of a certain age to really appreciate what he brought to the game and how good he really was. Goalscorer supreme, he was lethal around goal and it's a crying shame when you've got kids today such as Rooney who will eventually overtake his England scoring record. For awareness in the area, finishing prowess and instinct there were few better.

Read his autobiography recently and not only a tremendous playing individual but could tell a great story with articulate and comprehensive detail. Sadly like Best and Gascoigne alcohol abuse took a hold and disrupted a full potential but still provided many years of outstanding play. Deserved to be part of a championship winning team but didn't join up with Tottenham until 1962, one year after the double achievement.

Wish Mr Greaves every success in his fight back to recovery and thoughts go out to his family and friends at this difficult time.

PS Shed on Tour saw what you wrote and to be honest you couldn't put a price on Greaves in todays game. If players like Bale go for 80 million then what the hell would Jim be worth ? Something astronomical not less than 100 million, he was that good.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:08 pm
by bjorks
Sad news..but some of the great players in the past have been drawn to alcohol! Let's remember what they've given us x

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:51 pm
by Shed on tour
saint jude wrote:Was fearing the worst when I saw the thread title but this is still very upsetting news. Greaves is my all-time favorite English player and you have to be of a certain age to really appreciate what he brought to the game and how good he really was. Goalscorer supreme, he was lethal around goal and it's a crying shame when you've got kids today such as Rooney who will eventually overtake his England scoring record. For awareness in the area, finishing prowess and instinct there were few better.

Read his autobiography recently and not only a tremendous playing individual but could tell a great story with articulate and comprehensive detail. Sadly like Best and Gascoigne alcohol abuse took a hold and disrupted a full potential but still provided many years of outstanding play. Deserved to be part of a championship winning team but didn't join up with Tottenham until 1962, one year after the double achievement.

Wish Mr Greaves every success in his fight back to recovery and thoughts go out to his family and friends at this difficult time.

PS Shed on Tour saw what you wrote and to be honest you couldn't put a price on Greaves in todays game. If players like Bale go for 80 million then what the hell would Jim be worth ? Something astronomical not less than 100 million, he was that good.
SJ

Totally agree with you.
44 goals in 57 appearances for England and 220 league goals for Spurs says it all.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:39 pm
by Charnwood
I still remember back to 1963 when I was a young autograph hunter and Jimmy Greaves let me into the Spurs dressing room at Portman Road where I got all the players autographs on a fabulous colour team photograph. Situations like that would never be allowed to happen these days but in the early 60's players were so much more accessible.

Jimmy Greaves became one of my idols after that good deed and my autograph collection that day also included a number of other Spurs legends including John White who was tragically killed the following year by lightning whilst sheltering under a tree during a thunderstorm whilst playing golf.

Wishing you all the best Greavsey for a full and speedy recovery.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 4:29 am
by arana peligrosa
Most people will be unaware that Greaves own favorite sporting accomplishment was participating in the 1970 World Rally

For those in the dark, Greaves was not selected for the Mexico '70 World Cup by Ramsey and instead 'was persuaded' to have a go at a European / South American motor rally that took in locations such as Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Panama and Peru. On one or two occasions actually came close to death while involved but he made it through in a very respectable place out of all those who participated.

Was involved in the 'West Ham Blackpool scandal' a year after and retired from professional soccer at the end of the 1970 / 71 season although still featured in later years for other teams albeit in a sporadic non-professional capacity.

One last mention goes to the great Spurs team of the 1960s that Greaves was involved with, names such as MacKay, White, Gilzean, Dyson and Smith. This was a team that could get you 100 goals a season and Greaves was largely responsible for this. Also did well for Milan albeit in a short spell but fell out of favor with the manager, who Greaves described in his autobiography as 'an overweight ex-heavyweight boxer'

Once again wishing Mr Greaves every success in his recovery. We wish him well.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:04 am
by marko69
The Scottish/English football banter on Saint & Greavsie was second to none......, the best football discussion show ever. Greavsie is one of the wittiest guys ever in football. Knows where the goals are too...... What a player.

Get well soon, Greavsie.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:59 am
by arana peligrosa
marko69 wrote:The Scottish/English football banter on Saint & Greavsie was second to none......, the best football discussion show ever. Greavsie is one of the wittiest guys ever in football. Knows where the goals are too...... What a player.

Get well soon, Greavsie.

Yes that was a good program that many of todays generation missed out on. Greaves was often ridiculing the scots any opportunity that came his way and even at a Wales / Scotland World Cup qualifier in the 1980s asked one of the away fans if he could see what was under his kilt to confirm he was a true scot (!)

Him and Saint John were a class act, almost at home with each other as Abbott and Costello. The latter was very upset to hear the news as you'd imagine and all thoughts are once again with them at this difficult time.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 4:23 pm
by Dazzz67
Always like Greavsie, wishing all the best to you and your family, get better soon!!

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:40 pm
by marko69
You are very correct, Saint Jude...... He was always having a go at Ian St. John, taking the p1$$ out of Scotland etc, but Saint always took it on the chin......, was sometimes tears down the face funny.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 3:59 am
by arana peligrosa
marko69 wrote:You are very correct, Saint Jude...... He was always having a go at Ian St. John, taking the p1$$ out of Scotland etc, but Saint always took it on the chin......, was sometimes tears down the face funny.
Greaves and Saint John were on opposite teams when Scots played England in '61 and unbelievably had a 9 - 3 win.
The former never missed an opportunity to remind the latter of what occured that day in subsequent years be it by way of their shared program or in some other Greaves involved publication.

15 April 1961

England 9
Scotland 3


scorers

England : Greaves (3) Smith (2) Haynes (2) Robson, Douglas

Scotland : MacKay, Wilson, Quinn

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 12:10 pm
by TODD66
saint jude wrote:
marko69 wrote:You are very correct, Saint Jude...... He was always having a go at Ian St. John, taking the p1$$ out of Scotland etc, but Saint always took it on the chin......, was sometimes tears down the face funny.
Greaves and Saint John were on opposite teams when Scots played England in '61 and unbelievably had a 9 - 3 win.
The former never missed an opportunity to remind the latter of what occured that day in subsequent years be it by way of their shared program or in some other Greaves involved publication.

15 April 1961

England 9
Scotland 3


scorers

England : Greaves (3) Smith (2) Haynes (2) Robson, Douglas

Scotland : MacKay, Wilson, Quinn
Another great name to conjure with.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:47 pm
by TODD66
Good to see family reporting Jimmy out'm of ICU

Long way to go but encouraging for family.

Re: Jimmy Greaves

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:46 am
by arana peligrosa
TODD66 wrote:Good to see family reporting Jimmy out'm of ICU

Long way to go but encouraging for family.
Yes that is good to hear, keeping a close eye on his situation. Not to appear repetitive but wishing Mr Greaves every success once again towards a full recovery.

Didn't realize Greaves (now) resides in Suffolk but he actually has always had a soft spot for Ipswich and has given us a mention in various publications. There's an article in the East Anglian Daily Times about Mr Greaves improvement but the page has been problematic.

What I don't understand is that he's about to be inducted into the Spurs hall of fame in a week or two, which obviously must be put back to another date until Mr Greaves is in better condition, but why wait until now ? Should have been included many years before now, it's a bit of a disgrace in so many words. Guessing they've got names already in such as Villa, Gascoigne, Hoddle, Mabbutt and Perryman but no Greaves as of yet ?

Just adds insult to injury when you learn of it