Re: NON IPSWICH MATCHES
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:57 pm
3-4 come on Borough 1 more please
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What a shocking decision was that tonight. Yesterday the most ridiculous marginal offside decision rules out a winning goal in one competition , and tonight the most obvious offside goal is given in another. English football is in complete mess.
Superb. Not a criticism at all Hallam, honest. Just find it funny that managers come under fire …… even on the back of OTHER games. They need to have thick skins. But you no doubt make a good point.hallamblue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:46 pmLeeds constantly hitting Boro on the break, which is exactly what they did against us(in both games), yet McKenna insisted of playing open attacking football in the return game at Elland Rd.
Scum also played like that against us - twice and still McKenna plays the same way. That’s what will cost us!
And this is the baseline reality. There’s no way the management team expected us to be in this position in our first Championship season. I’m guessing they would be hoping for us to have been challenging for promotion year 2 or 3. Like you, I don’t think Kmk will go anywhere next season; I feel like he’d be personally invested in the same plan. The most important thing is that the club now has the management, vision and financial backing to improve. Regardless of the outcome of the next fortnight, I reckon there’s only positives ahead.
its not the games we've actually lost...but more the games we were in complete control of, only to concede a soft goal at the oppositions first
marko69 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:32 amSuperb. Not a criticism at all Hallam, honest. Just find it funny that managers come under fire …… even on the back of OTHER games. They need to have thick skins. But you no doubt make a good point.hallamblue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:46 pmLeeds constantly hitting Boro on the break, which is exactly what they did against us(in both games), yet McKenna insisted of playing open attacking football in the return game at Elland Rd.
Scum also played like that against us - twice and still McKenna plays the same way. That’s what will cost us!
At PR we've only drawn 6 games, Two were goalless against QPR & Watford while the other Four were against Norwich, WBA, Leicester & Middlesbrough, we came from behind against Three of those and had the classic offside goal against the scum so we haven't actually lost any Two point hauls at PR, we've gained points from losing positions if anything.hallamblue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:58 amits not the games we've actually lost...but more the games we were in complete control of, only to concede a soft goal at the oppositions first
(and sometimes only attack ), leaving us with the whole game to try and get it back to a draw, and claw a point form the mouth of all three.. We've dropped loads of "2 points " from these needlessly drawn games, by conceding soft goals so often at PR.
I agree to some extent, but with our defence I think attack really is the best form of defence. We have seen that we need to outscore the opposition rather than stop them scoring. The only way we could change our approach realistically is to get in a couple of fullbacks who can defend rather than wingbacks who create chances. Our defence is indeed exposed by our tactics but if we changed I suspect we’d never score another goal. Slight exaggeration but you know what I mean.hallamblue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:46 pmLeeds constantly hitting Boro on the break, which is exactly what they did against us(in both games), yet McKenna insisted of playing open attacking football in the return game at Elland Rd.
Scum also played like that against us - twice and still McKenna plays the same way. That’s what will cost us!
look im sure all teams will say the same. .look back on forums of others and you will see a carbon copy .leeds Leicester Southampton all lost games by the goal or 2 but if you look at statistics in most cases they dominated and 3 times shots on goal .or shots .on another day the result be different .those 3 teams have far better technical players than us but what has kept us in pace with them is togetherness and good football on the ground..to be where we are .at the moment is something we would never have imagined at start of season. ..we have two bites at the cherry now for going up..win 3 ..we are up ..or fail that then ..do enough in the play offs to get us to Wembley. And win .!!! More twists and turns to go anyway .hallamblue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:07 pmmarko69 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:32 amSuperb. Not a criticism at all Hallam, honest. Just find it funny that managers come under fire …… even on the back of OTHER games. They need to have thick skins. But you no doubt make a good point.hallamblue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:46 pmLeeds constantly hitting Boro on the break, which is exactly what they did against us(in both games), yet McKenna insisted of playing open attacking football in the return game at Elland Rd.
Scum also played like that against us - twice and still McKenna plays the same way. That’s what will cost us!
I'm just looking back on the season and where there are very fine margins, juts reflecting on things. I suppose my point was really, that McKennas Achilles heal is not tweaking things occasionally when he really should. eg we played Leeds away on the attack at will approach, in the full knowledge that they ripped us a knew one with their fast counter attacking play. They buried us at PR in the first half and in the game at Elland Rd, when maybe had we been a bit more savvy in our approach we might have nicked a point. Its not a weakness to "change" or mix something up " if you see a flaw in your approach, its actually a strength of reflection and action upon reflection.
Vs Scum , they hit us on the counter attack (having sat deep and packed their defence for most of the game) and with their only 2 attacks of the game caught us cold ..... so in the game at CR , what do we do? Play the same way . Scum sat deep and hit us on the break. Why would we do that again?
Unfortunately if / when we get scum in those Play Offs, the same thing will happen again: the definition of insanity is to keep repeating the same mistake isnt it ?
Lol, yes I know what you mean. Where we are now is simply incredible, and whatever happens its been a helluva season hasn't it. But if we do just miss out, I think we will all feel a bit cheated tbh .Andym wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:39 pmI agree to some extent, but with our defence I think attack really is the best form of defence. We have seen that we need to outscore the opposition rather than stop them scoring. The only way we could change our approach realistically is to get in a couple of fullbacks who can defend rather than wingbacks who create chances. Our defence is indeed exposed by our tactics but if we changed I suspect we’d never score another goal. Slight exaggeration but you know what I mean.hallamblue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:46 pmLeeds constantly hitting Boro on the break, which is exactly what they did against us(in both games), yet McKenna insisted of playing open attacking football in the return game at Elland Rd.
Scum also played like that against us - twice and still McKenna plays the same way. That’s what will cost us!
I suppose this is my point ( pun not intended! lol)...we've gained points from losing position , but that's us spending the whole game trying to get back on level terms or go into win, all because we let in such soft goals. If you look at the goals conceded at home compared to the other top teams around us , we've conceded TWICE as many goals . Youve stood there with me and held your hands up just like and said , WTF how have we allowed them to score, when we've been in such complete control of this game... our GD could yet bite us in the bum at the death here unfortunately ... and what a shame that will be for all our dominance in games and fantastic attacking footie ....Bluemike wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:37 pmAt PR we've only drawn 6 games, Two were goalless against QPR & Watford while the other Four were against Norwich, WBA, Leicester & Middlesbrough, we came from behind against Three of those and had the classic offside goal against the scum so we haven't actually lost any Two point hauls at PR, we've gained points from losing positions if anything.hallamblue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:58 amits not the games we've actually lost...but more the games we were in complete control of, only to concede a soft goal at the oppositions first
(and sometimes only attack ), leaving us with the whole game to try and get it back to a draw, and claw a point form the mouth of all three.. We've dropped loads of "2 points " from these needlessly drawn games, by conceding soft goals so often at PR.
There's also quite a few games we've come from behind to win, which explains why we have more points from losing positions than anyone else in the division, sometimes it feels worse than it actually is but just glancing down the results page our resilience is quite staggering.
Nooooooo! Don’t say things like that!hallamblue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:07 pmUnfortunately if / when we get scum in those Play Offs,….
marko69 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:48 pmNooooooo! Don’t say things like that!hallamblue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:07 pmUnfortunately if / when we get scum in those Play Offs,….